OMG! Ok i spent a week when we moved in scrubbing the master shower. I don't think the former owners ever cleaned it. I mean Scrubbing Bubbles didn't know what to do with it. But at least Ajax and the water hose did. Any way now i have get out the bleach and do it all over again since the plumbing decided to hiccup on us. The toilet decide to back up into the shower. It could've been worse(not by much) it could've just over flowed and sam into the bedroom carpet. So hz guess i should be happy with the lesser of two evils. But went know what it's still freakin' evil.